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"There are many benefits to
helping to build up an underdog squadron. Lots of good causes in life start
off with little support. It's the folks who take the lead that form a nucleus
of dissent which can have a snowball effect lasting for generations. Such
folks not only change the course of history in ways that could boost anyone's
pride, they also get in on the ground floor and are less likely to have their
leadership questioned at every turn. Pioneering team-building is a
skill that's highly valued in the business world. Job interviewers,
as well as college and grad. school admissions officials like to hear about
demonstrated examples of it in one's past. This stands to reason, in
fact..."
-Anonymous "It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled and fell, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena: whose face is marred by dust, sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again . . . who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; and at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat." -Theodore Roosevelt |
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"I wish athletic accolades didn't depend
so much on what others think of me, instead of on my individual
performance."
-An anonymous athlete from one of those
less fortunate
sports
"Schools do not admit students based on just PSAT or SAT scores. High scores and grades only get you tossed in the "possible" pile. The final decisions depend heavily on essays, teacher recommendations and extracurricular activities." (Source: article in the Washington Post, April 9th, 2002).
*Collegiate's wrestling team was originally founded by Dr. Don Pate, who is now a recently retired University of Richmond Professor that fortunately continues sharing his knowledge with Collegiate's athletic program, and favorably impacting people´s lives forever... Early on he received considerable help from Graylon Crisp (still at Collegiate) and later from former U. of R. standout Ted Pinnick. Other coaches have helped the program over the years, including:
Former Cub wrestling coaches: Andrew Stanley &
Brian Leipheimer
Assistant varsity coaches during the
1990's and / or beyond: Dr. Don Pate, Coach Stone & John Thoma
Previous Cub wrestling (middle school) Coaches: Charley Hudson
and Rob Bei
Additional prior coaches: Coach Sweeney, Wortie Ferrell,
Mark Palyo, Graylon Crisp (featured above), Larry Jarman & Ted
Pinnick (featured above).
Collegiate's most recent varsity
coaches
include: Andy Stone, Steve Sica (Collegiate's only 3X VISWA state champ
& 2x All-American) and Coach Parker.
*Collegiate wishes
Coach Frank Kiefer well over at
St. C, where their quantity
of National Prep All Americans literally tripled during his first
season
there. Richmond's
prominence in the USA's Prep wrestling scene has the potential to improve
considerably now, as Coach K.
has produced literally dozens of Prep School All-Americans at schools
such as Charlotte Latin (NC), Norfolk Academy, Virginia Episcopal School
(VES), and Westminster High School (Atlanta, GA). During the
1990´s,
Westminster´s
team placed in the top 5 at the national prep tournament at Lehigh,
and some of its most tenacious participants secured
All American status around a
dozen
times from 1996-1999 (in addition to the Nationals'
Outstanding Wrestler
during Coach K's final year in Atlanta). Did you know that
Coach Kiefer and Coach
Pate were both
Olympic alternates for the
U.S.A?
*The USA has a record-high $9 trillion dollar national debt , which doesn't even include "entitlements" such as social security obligations that reportedly amount to at least 5 times more. Such a debt burden is and will increasingly strain law enforcement budgets nationwide like never before. Consequently, wouldn't self defense-oriented sports (even at the mere exhibition level) not seem more potentially useful than ever to already diet-conscious women? Doesn't traveling overseas (especially where handguns are outlawed), or at night here in the USA, already involve enough inherent risks for practically all ambitious & career-oriented folks? Unsurprisingly enough, women's wrestling is now finally an Olympics sport...
A female wrestler from which pioneering Virginia
high school became the first female, statewide, ever to win a match in the
VISWA state tournament? Answer:
Collegiate's
Sunny
Clemons '97.
*TheMat.com's
women's amateur wrestling site
*InterMat´s
women´s amateur wrestling site
*Title IX (and how
a lack of gender equity has forced our increasingly popular self defense-oriented
sport to lose several hundred official college teams)
External links (although what's below on this page is worth reading, too):
Latest news:
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then go to "properties" and copy the url that you see.)
March
Matness? Or Mat Madness? Either way, here are the
NCAA wrestling team final scores for 2008.
Did you notice how a
former Prep wrestler from our neighboring state of
Tennessee won it all at 157 lbs. for
Cornell?
Have
you heard about the
new wrestling club
at St. Chris for offseason preparation & competition?
Congrats
to all Cougars who performed for us during the
2008 postseason!
Here
are the
results
for the 2008 Virginia Independent Schools state wrestling tournament
championships...
2008 Virginia Prep League Tournament
Results...(Incidentally, we forfeited around 4 weight
classes...)
What's
your opinion of the most recent Virginia prep school rankings
here?
How
do these Virginia prep school wrestling (VISWA) individual & team
rankings
look to you?
Here
are the 2007 Prep League tournament
results, the
2007 VISWA
State wrestling tournament results (which re-emerged @
Woodberry
Forest)
and the National Prep
results. Congrats to all
Cougars who did their best during the post-season!
Can
you believe that Collegiate's varsity has been
regularly forfeiting around 5 weight classes during the
'07-'08 season? Meanwhile, unlike during (for example) the 1980's,
Collegiate doesn't even have a j.v. program
nowadays...
Have
you seen our
latest
schedule & results? For Collegiate's official website's
report, click
here.
On
Sunday, January 27th, 2008 there was a showdown
between Va.
Tech. &
U.Va @
St.
C, and the event was a very well-attended success once again.
Looking forward to the next "Rumble"? For more details, please
check out Wrestling
Rumble.com. Meanwhile, how did you like 2006's
Wrestling
Rumble
(UNC vs.
Va. Tech) @
St.
C? The one held in Jan. of 2005 @
St.
C (U.Va.
vs. VMI) was a roaring, sellout, standing-room-only
success too. It was also a standing-room-only, sold out
event
@ Collegiate back in January of 2003
(U.Va. vs.
VMI).
Are
you interested in
U.Va.?
The Charlottesville Wrestling Club periodically holds clinics in the
Richmond area.
Details.
And here's their wrestling page:
U.Va.
The
College Sports Television Network's wrestling content continues to grow,
thanks to popular demand.
Info...
Would you like to wrestle in college like Mac Friddell and John Chlore have fairly recently done up at Princeton? The Bush Administration mildly reformed Title IX to enhance the likelihood that you can do so. Here are some details about the recent reform and here's a link to the National Collegiate Wrestling Association dedicated to current and future college club teams (some of which have already gotten NCAA or NAIA certification). Can you imagine how good it would look on your job resumé to have significantly helped a fledgling project thrive?
Have
you seen the
list
of newly reinstated or simply new,
nonclub college varsity
wrestling teams yet? One's in Virginia. Incidentally,
despite Title
IX woes, the College of William & Mary's (now club)
wrestling program
is increasingly rising from the ashes just as
Liberty University's
wrestling program has done. For more college club programs,
please visit
http://www.NCWA.net.
What do you predict for nearby VCU now that they finally have a
new athletic director who has a history of being supportive of wrestling
(while at UNC and Arizona State)?
Remember
how a former VISWA standout (from
Bishop O'Connell H.S.)
Steve
Ratley recently got to perform for years on a Div. 1 scholarship for
ACC contender Va. Tech?
Are you interested in seeing real wrestling done on a professional
level on t.v.? Now you can! Please check out
RealProWrestling.com.
March Matness? Here's the best, freely available page of which we're aware
that details the NCAA wrestling tourney
results... Here are the
NCAA wrestling team final scores for 2008.
Are
Trinity Episcopal High
School &
Wakefield
School adding wrestling like
Westover
Christian Academy,
Seton School &
Massanutten Military Academy fairly
recently have, and Timberlake Christian
has considered doing?
Richmond's Trinity Episcopal High School reinstated football during the Fall of 2004. Why not wrestling, though? They had a National Prep All-American in Will Seger (1984) [4th place, 185 lbs.] and some All Prep and state medalist wrestlers since then. Nevertheless, that Richmond-area nonboarding school which charges $12,500 per year in tuition still has no DEFINED plans to reinstate humanity's oldest sport which doesn't discriminate on the basis of blindness, deafness, amputee status, size or gender (as of this Summer's 2004 Olympics in which women's freestyle wrestlers will participate).
What's more influential than questioning from aspiring students and parents, or even from folks in the community who are simply concerned about this seemingly discriminatory decision of Trinity's? Here's their contact data:
http://www.trinityes.org/admissions/financial_aid.php
Might you know any alumni who would call or write in, too?
Incidentally,
very few people seem to realize just how affordable an education at
an independently run school in Virginia can be. For more information
on vouchers (which neighboring Washington D.C. already offers its taxpayers'
youth), please click
here
. And if you're interested in asking an elected official in
Virginia what (s)he thinks, feel free to click here:
http://legis.state.va.us.
Can you believe that Virginia is one of the only states not to even
offer
"open-enrollment"
in exchange for our tax dollars?
Have
you seen Veritas, the recent amateur wresting film produced &
directed by
Howie
Miller (a U.Va. wrestling alumnus, ACC wrestling
champ & 2nd Team Academic All-American)? Here are the most relevant
links:
Official
website; YouTube & parody
links; InterMat
press
release; MySpace
page.
Former
Cougar wrestler Johnny Clore has been the starter at 174 pounds for Princeton
University. He picked up an impressive win against Franklin & Marshall.
Details...
Have
you seen the Richmond Times Dispatch's
Central Virginia 2006 All-Metro Wrestling Team? Congrats
go especially to those
from St. C who made the list.
Congratulations to all Cougars who performed well during the post-season!
Here are the 2006 National Prep tourney results. Why isn't the national championships tournament's location rotated each year? Can you imagine the differences if Richmond got to host it?
OTHER NEWS:
Collegiate seeks some assistant coaches who can also teach. For details, please click here.
Congrats to the Cougars who represented us at the National Preps @ Lehigh U. this year! Here are the results. Incidentally, nobody from Collegiate's team is graduating this year, so hopefully all will be back next season. Meanwhile, nice going Saints! And can you believe how Bishop Lynch (in Dallas, Texas) made the Top Two, team-wise?
With the recent reinstatement of Division I wrestling at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. (thanks to support from a big fan of amateur wrestling named Jerry Falwell), our state reportedly has more Division I NCAA wrestling teams than New Jersey, New York, Ohio or Illinois, even as these cold weather states predictably have more of a wrestling [and indoor sports] tradition, as well as larger populations. How is this so? Perhaps we Virginians are politically savvy when it comes to preserving humanity's oldest sport which doesn't discriminate on the basis of blindness, deafness, amputee status, size or gender. Wrestling, in general, has held up reasonably well recently relative to other sports. According to the Dayton Daily News, "In the past 15 years, wrestling is eighth on the list of most-dropped NCAA programs, at 121 teams. Cross country leads at 183, and indoor track (180), golf (178 , tennis (171), rowing (132), outdoor track (126) and swimming (125) have lost more than wrestling in that time....In January [of 2004], faced with a budgetary decision, the University of Findlay converted men's and women's hockey to intramural sports and spared wrestling. Five institutions, including Utah Valley State College in NCAA Division I, will start wrestling programs next season."
Congratulations to all Cougars who shined at the Prep League and VISWA states! Here are Prep League tourney results... and here are the 2005 VISWA wrestling tournament results. Would you agree that the score doesn't adequately portray how impressive the Saints were both on and off the mat? Their noncondescending enthusiasm for our sport sells it very well during this time in which its political vulnerability has led to the elimination of hundreds of college wrestling teams, and a growing quantity of high school ones. Even when they'd lose big matches (seemingly unfairly at times), they were fantastic sports about it. It is this volunteer, anonymous webmaster's view that the Saints (at least those occupying the upper weights who were conversed with at the tournament) will go far in life, due to their obvious determination, discipline, great people skills, sense of humor and ability to cope with adversity and disappointment. Interestingly enough, the St. C. wrestlers were absolutely TOP notch folks 2 decades ago, too (but admittedly without quite as impressive a list of accomplishments on the mat). These are the kinds of folks that we want and need to have working in media boardrooms because they've got what it takes to persuade others there to allow wrestling to finally get the recognition that's primarily reserved for basketball and football. And these are the folks we want running for elected office, because they have the down-to-Earth sensibility and wit that are needed for persuading others not to axe wrestling teams despite what feminazi quota-hugging Title IX bandits demand. Covenant H.S. (in Charlottesville) can say similar things about its participants as far as personality and dedication are concerned. Both teams (and a handfull of others) make great ambassadors for our sport, wouldn't it seem?
On a different front, historically enough the 2005 VISWA state tourney's audience included an NCAA Division I head coach whose team included a VISWA alumnus. Hopefully this sort of remarkable support for our sport by one of wrestling's leaders will be reinforced and rewarded (especially in the future) by those who are able to see to it that this can happen. Shouldn't it?
Hopefully others increasingly agree that it should, especially anyone who may have initially had other priorities before others tried to get through to them (which may or may not have finally happened).
Previously...
Does Woodberry
[team
pages]
seem unstoppable by any Prep League or even VISWA team other than
the outstanding (and remarkably congenial ambassadors for our sport)
St.
Christopher's?
The
Tigers
lost to
Norfolk
Academy by 10 in Richmond on January 15th, 2005.
Meanwhile, they barely got by Covenant H.S., which is much
smaller ... And here are the
results
of the Harrisonburg Invitational and the
Broadway tourney.
When was the last time that Woodberry
didn't place in the Top 2 at the Prep League tournament? Before
the 1980's. Will a combined effort from individuals on various
teams keep the school with just about the most male students in the Prep
League from achieving what its numbers otherwise suggest that it should?
Stay tuned, and never quit trying to (ethically) be the best that you
can be...
St. C. placed
the highest of Central Va. teams in the
Richmond
Invitational, giving them clear title to being #1 in all of Central Virginia.
The
Saints
had an interesting early December weekend as
well: Details
(Germanton) and more
details (Lafayette).
Congrats to all Cougars who placed for us at the Clover Hill Invitational! Here are the results.
Congrats to all Cougars who placed for us at the recent Colonial Heights Kickoff! Here are the results. Would it not seem that discounts for opponents are becoming more of a thing of the past for the ever-improving Price Club? Way to go Tom!
Is the reversal of fortunes between the Cougars and Saints in varsity football attributable to the declining quantity of football players who subsequently wrestle at Collegiate, and to the increasing quantity of them at St. C? Feel free to comment...
Have you seen these VISWA and Central Region preseason rankings yet? Feel free to comment...
We wish Jamie Robertson well at JMU. Jamie was a 2x VISWA state champion for Collegiate.
Have you seen how many colleges have either reinstated
or officially added wrestling during 2004, alone? Well over a dozen.
We owe a lot of it to
Title IX reform.
Meanwhile, there is also a growing list of
NCWA college club wrestling teams that
are aiming for reinstatement (like Bucknell U. recently achieved).
VCU 's NCWA wrestling
team will be competing in the Virginia Intercollegiate State Championships
@ U.Va. this winter. Collegiate's own Harry Ludeman will likely be
in their
starting
line-up, too. Good luck
Harry!
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President Bush (as well as presidential cabinet members who
used to wrestle such as Defense Secretary
Donald
Rumsfeld) have fought
hard to help rescue college wrestling from the Clintonian proportionality
interpretation of an otherwise wonderful
Title IX law. Here's
a historically unprecedented picture of W. at the White
House with the 2001 & 2002 NCAA championship-winning University of Minnesota
wrestling team, which incidentally won it all in 2001 without having a single
NCAA finalist:
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Thanks W. !
DaytonDailyNews.com
article:
"In the past 15 years, wrestling is eighth on the list of most-dropped
NCAA programs, at 121 teams. Cross country leads at 183, and indoor track
(180), golf (178), tennis (171), rowing (132), outdoor track (126) and swimming
(125) have lost more than wrestling in that time....In January, faced with
a budgetary decision, the University of Findlay converted men's and women's
hockey to intramural sports and spared wrestling. Five institutions, including
Utah Valley State College in NCAA Division I, will start wrestling programs
next season." For more about Title IX: proportionality, feel free to
click here.
The Charlottesville wrestling club's elite [literally Olympian] coaching staff will be holding practices in the Richmond area rather often. For more details, please click here.
Here's info on the 2004 Olympic wrestling events... Here's alternative info. Here are some questions that seem to be worth thinking about: 1) Will women's wrestling make significant strides in the U.S.A. now that Yale Law student Patty Miranda recently won a bronze? Meanwhile, 2) is it not intriguing how Jamill Kelly recently took a silver in men's freestyle wresting despite having never won a high school state tourney, and having supposedly never even placed in the NCAA's? Finally, 3) how much of the comparatively lackluster performance of our wrestlers can be attributed to consequences stemming from Title IX: proportionality?
Governor Mark Warner says he will
focus on reforming Virginia's public schools, and fighting teenage obesity
during his remaining months in office. For information on how you can
efficiently encourage him and his political opponents to try and be the first
to get to take credit for enacting reforms that would inadvertently boost
Virginia wrestling (such as enacting tuition vouchers programs), please
click here.
March Matness? Official NCAA Championships data from
the latest
wrestling tourney is available at
NCAAsports.com, specifically
HERE.
Isn't it rather impressive how well some individuals from the Ivy League
schools are performing despite academic pressures and the lack of
scholarships? Both Harvard & Stanford had national champions
in 2004.
In recent years, Cornell had an NCAA champ and two other
All-Americans, while Penn, Harvard & Princeton also produced All-Americans.
Dartmouth & Yale had their teams eliminated thanks largely to
Title IX: proportionality,
but Yale won an NCWA national championship
a while back, and these schools might bounce back if the Ed. Department's
bureaucracy allows. Columbia & Brown haven't been as good as they've
previously been, but they'll be back.
Would you like to get to see college wrestling vía your local cable t.v. service provider? Click here.
Is
Wakefield School about to add
wrestling like the somewhat
nearby
Seton School (Manassas,
Va.) &
Massanutten
Military Academy fairly recently have?
The VISWA finally gets to participate in the A, AA &
AAA Virginia Challenge.
Can we rise to the challenge? Here are the Group A state tournament
team and
individual results.
Various native Virginians won ACC championships at
U.Va.
on March 6th, including somebody who never won a high school state tournament
(who went on to become an
NCAA
All-American weeks later). Here are the
details.
Are you pleased with how the Central Region yielded 2 of 28 AAA
state finalists, and [once again] ZERO state champs in 2004? Do you
miss the days when the Central Region regularly had a few different individual
AAA state champs each season, like it did during the 1980's? Until
now, the Central Region had not gone 2 consecutive years without a single
AAA state champ in over 2 decades. Is the problem without a
solution? Is it not predictable, though, that those with proposed solutions
get publicly mocked by a few who are nervous about making a change?
There's a discussion thread devoted to this overall subject:
here.
Here is the Lehigh "national preps"
site. And here's a hopefully
accurate
list
of "National Prep All-Americans" from the
VISWA.
As this recent Times Dispatch
article
suggests, congrats to all
Cougars who
achieved at the
2004
VISWA states and at
the 2004
Prep League tournament! (Here's an
alternative Prep
League tourney results site and here's a
discussion
thread on the Prep League tournament.) Meanwhile, congrats
to the
Saints
for its three-peats! And here are CollegiateWrestling.com's
scores and
also
those
of Collegiate High School's official page.
Parity has returned to the Central Region, as these
tournament
results show and as the 1,500 maximum capacity crowd can confirm.
Congratulations to the
Saints
for their decisive victory over the team champions!
Collegiate's CUB wrestling program
went 9-1 this season! For details, please click
here...
Meanwhile, we wish Coach Joe Lawson
(a former VISWA champ)
all the best after graduation this June.
Congrats to the Saints and Cougars who are included in the latest Times Dispatch rankings!
Did you know that the Virginia Prep League's own Blue Ridge High School won the entire National Preps Invitational one year during the 1970's up at Lehigh U? Also, did you know that Trinity Episcopal had a 185 pounder (Will Seger) place 4th up there in 1984, and that Woodberry Forest's '86 team placed 4th at the National Preps in 1986 (etcetera)? Speaking of 1986, Bishop Ireton produced that year's Lehigh University National Prep tournament's Most Oustanding Wrestler award winner (Mangrum, 126 lbs. and an eventual ACC Champion for N.C. State). Meanwhile, Bishop O'Connell produced a National Prep champion that year, too (Dennis O'brien, 177 lbs., who went on to wrestle for U.Va. as a 4 year starter, as well). Both received scholarships and eventually began successful professional careers, too. In fact, Dennis graduated from U.Va.'s Law School in 1994, after having been admitted during what U.Va.'s Law School called its all-time record admissions year in terms of the quantity and quality of its law school applicants.
Incidentally,
did you know that in just 3 years' time,
Coach Kiefer coached half
of ALL of Collegiate's National Prep
tournament All American wrestlers? And during his first year
coaching at
St.
C, they literally tripled their quantity of National Prep
All-Americans from the previous year. Nice going!
Most states predictably ignore the National Prep tournament, as that recruiting activity opportunistically never rotates its venue (unlike the NCAA championships). Nevertheless, typically over a hundred teams are represented year after year.
Why shouldn't the "National" Prep tournament, which Lehigh
U. uses for its own recruiting of NorthEasterners (even though it knows folks
from Oklahoma, California, Oregon and even Ohio will not attend), finally
rotate its venue like the NCAA wrestling championships apparently
always
have? Shouldn't the "national" prep tournament also count post graduates'
contributions entirely separately, like it reportedly did in 1975
when Blue
Ridge
High School (St. George, Va.) won it all? What would stop another
Virginia team from winning it all again soon if these two reforms (or just
the Post graduate-related one) came about?
True freshman & native Virginian Christian Smith (who competed for Western Branch H.S. @ St. C. in 2003) has led the Duke Blue Devils to their best ACC regular season since 1959-1960! He was recently named ACC wrestler of the week.
Here's a
list of at least
some of the summer wrestling clinics that are advertising online.
Lots of schools that are popular targets for
Collegiate's seniors have official NCAA college
wrestling teams, through which you can try and network in hopes of learning
more about the school and even boosting your admissions prospects.
The list includes
U.Va.,
Duke, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, Cornell, M.I.T., U. of Chicago, West
Point, U. Penn., W&L, Northwestern, Annapolis, Davidson, JMU, Wesleyan,
Michigan, Virginia Tech, George Mason, Cal. Poly, American, UNC, Columbia
University, VMI and ODU, as well as Princeton. Meanwhile, here is a
state-by-state
list of U.S. colleges & universities that still maintain official
(i.e. nonclub) wrestling teams despite
Title IX.
When applying to such schools one often needs
to write essays and perhaps even interview, too. Thus, it helps to
have already demonstrated a meaningful interest in the school through
camp-attendance, as opposed to rather unoriginal and less productive endeavors
such as partying and football team boosting which admissions officials know
that ANY applicant with minimal talent, diligence and character could do.
Incidentally, the NCAA Division I wrestling
championships (among other things) results are
here. Did
you notice how many Ivy Leaguers have become NCAA Division 1 All-Americans?
"Schools do not admit students based on just PSAT or SAT
scores. High scores and grades only get you tossed in the "possible"
pile. The final decisions depend heavily on essays, teacher recommendations
and extracurricular activities." (Source:
article in
the Washington Post, April 9th, 2002).
The latest NCAA Division I wrestling tourney in Kansas City
drew a RECORD crowd of over 16,000 paying fans, despite how Kansas apparently
totally lacks division I wrestling nowadays. How is it that the
Title IX:
proportionality-huggers claim college wrestling has declined basically
due to a simple lack of interest?
To find out what President Bush has been doing
most recently to try and rescue amateur wrestling from the highly questionable,
and lethal, "proportionality" interpretation of an otherwise wonderful Title
IX law regarding gender equality in athletics, please click
here.
Previously...
St. C. defeated Collegiate 51-6 (2 Cougars won) blanked Woodberry 69-0, and got a challenge from Norfolk Academy (59-7)....
Meanwhile:
Collegiate 32,
Woodberry
36 in Orange, Va for 2004. Here are the individual
scores.
The Price Club
(John
and
Tom
Price, a pair of sophomores) sure did show up
for this one, huh? So did fellow underclassman
Ed
Trope. Our upper weights, who are football veterans from
Collegiate's state championship-winning team,
did too. So did our defending state
VISWA champ.
Considering how Collegiate has merely around
60% as many male students as the
Tigers,
it was an impressive effort which suggests that there will be some fierce
showdowns in the future.
TimesDispatch.com article: "No excuses," [Hanover Coach] Hale said. "[The Saints are] a well-balanced team and a well-coached team. They wrestled hard and took it to us." That wouldn't have been the case when [Brian] Herod was an eighth-grader. Herod said the Saints would go to practice and "casually mess around." Then Pete Shaifer arrived. Herod said Shaifer...instilled dedication and hard work. "I just want to help the kids learn to be committed to something," Shaifer said. "We all need to have some passion, something that drives us. We need to let those passions take us somewhere."
*Collegiate wishes its friend Coach Frank Kiefer well over at St. C. Richmond's prominence in the USA's Prep wrestling scene will only continue to improve now, as Coach K. has produced literally dozens of Prep School All-Americans at schools such as Charlotte Latin (NC), Norfolk Academy, Virginia Episcopal School (VES), and Westminster High School (Atlanta, GA). It's hardly a joke to be a prep school wrestler from Richmond now, and our improved standing has psychological advantages versus our increasingly concerned opponents. Besides which, we no longer have to travel that far to get to compete against [or train with] one of the best teams in the country. Incidentally, Coach K. was this webmaster's first, ever, rasslin' coach (at VES) a little over 2 decades ago. He was very sadly missed after his departure to pastures which were more suitable for him. Interestingly enough, though, he remained a good friend, helped rally his team behind his friends from other schools, shared scouting info. when it was permissible, and offered helpful advice & moral support. As Collegiate's All-American wrestler Seth Lotts has said, Collegiate is fortunate to have had a coach of his caliber.
Would you like to discuss the January 14th St. C. vs. Colonial Forge (#2, AAA) showdown in Richmond?
Please mark your calendars (and those of your friends) for 2006's Rumble on the River (U.Va. vs. VMI). The one held on Thursday, January 6th, 2005 @ St. C was a roaring, sellout, standing-room-only success. It was also a standing-room-only, sold out event @ Collegiate back in January of 2003.
Can you believe the caliber of the new assistant coach at U.Va? Here are the details...
Richmond's own Connor Gentil recently competed for U.Va. in Pennsylvania @174 lbs. Not bad for a true freshman and engineering student! As you may recall, Connor wrestled for Collegiate for years before Woodberry recruited him. Meanwhile, Paul VI's Joey Carpenter also competed for the 'Hoos. To read about what each achieved (and didn't achieve) at Virginia's independent schools state tournament, here are the results for 2003 and 2002.
U.Va.
is currently UNranked despite its All-American 141 pounder, as well
as the team's finally being fully-funded and also having the
1996 U.S. Olympics
head coach as an assistant.
There's a bit of parity at the NCAA level. Perhaps it's
not coincidental that they rotate the venue for the championships each year?
FYI: Robinson H.S. (in Fairfax) reportedly seeks to host the AAA state
championships in 2005, apparently for the first time since 1985 (when they
won it all, in fact).
Meanwhile, how will Virginia's college club teams do in the NCWA rankings?
The latest NCAA Top 25 team and individual rankings are out, and several native Virginians are starting for teams that are ranked highly:
http://www.intermatwrestle.com/college/rankings.asp
Isn't it impressive how
St.
C. recently placed ahead of all other Richmond-area teams participating
in the
Richmond
Invitational, not long after winning the
Lafayette invitational?
Have you seen which team just won
the
Bishop
Ireton
Holiday Invitational?
FUMA.
Congrats on having competed reasonably well at the
Clover
Hill Invitational, Cougars! Now
you're better prepared for competing at the
VISWA level.
The Richmond Times Dispatch reports the following score between the Cougars and a local AAA team which is ranked #3 in Central Virginia. Incidentally, Hermitage won the Central Region Championship (and the District one as well) when this Cougar website's webmaster was a senior in '86 (edging Coach Drew Bright's defending regional champs Douglas Freeman H.S. by 1 point, and by 1/2 a point the previous weekend at the two respective local post-season tournaments):
Hemitage 51, Collegiate 27 (with 3 forfeits from the much smaller, therefore more pro-individual school):
103: Norrington (H) by forfeit; 112: Tinsley
(H) p. Cortez 1:18; 119: Timok (H) by forfeit;
125: Trope (C) p. Brooks :50; 130: Madeirus (H) p. Oliver 4:57; 135: Bailey
(H) d. Clore 6-3; 140: McAllister (H) p. Goggins 4:32; 145: Atkins (H) by
forfeit; 152: Bartholomew (C) p. Long :42; 160:
Price (C) d. Smith 13-7; 171: Elgert (H) p. Schewell 3:11; 189: Miller (C)
p. Norman 3:37; 215: Waller (C) p. Kenney 2:53; 275: Bledsoe (H) p. Ludeman
2:35.
Southside Sentinel's sports round-up: "The [Christchurch] wrestling team is led by first-year coach Dean Hall (92). ***[Folks, Coach Hall is the alumni director, and reportedly a 2x VISWA state champ who also placed 5th at the National Preps for Christchurch in '92]***. The team looks to turn things around this year and it looks like they are ready to do exactly that. With 33 wrestlers out for the team this season, the Fighting Seahorses appear ready to battle anyone who enters their path. We have competitors on this years team, said Hall. If we keep progressing at the rate we have started, we will be able to hang with just about anyone. The possible starting lineup for the Christchurch wrestling team is as follows:
103 lbs. Matt McCormick/Griffin Williford/Matt Wolfe; 112
Julian Ramirez; 119 Russ Trione; 125 Nate McDaniel; 130
Open; 135 Peyton McCann; 140 Pat Lynch/Chad Jenson; 145
Chase Monday/Grayson Pettit/Richard Johnson; 152 David Bury/Drew Bury;
160 Scott Lowery/Pedro Cor-niel/Khouri Howard; 171 Mike Young/Jack
Argiropoulos; 189 Andy Wilson/Walter Craigie; 215 Charles
Jumet/Shawn Erwin; HWT Ross Patchin/John Anderson/Ford
Fischer."
In 1997 Collegiate's own
Sunny
Clemons became the first female EVER to win a VISWA state match...
And in 2004 women's wrestling will finally be an Olympics sport.
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For more info:
*InterMat´s women´s amateur wrestling site
*TheMat.com's women's amateur wrestling site
Charlottesville's Saint Anne's Belfield
(STAB)
had a VISWA state champion
in 2002, but a
STAB alumnus (now
in college) posted some concerns in part of this
thread
about the overall program's longevity (or potential lack thereof).
The situation could have been reminiscent of
Trinity
Episcopal, which had a 185 pounder (Will Seger) place 4th
at the National Preps in 1984, only to drop the program a few years after
that Prep League and VISWA state champion (and at least one subsequent Prep
League champion) graduated. We are very pleased to report that
STAB's program
will indeed survive, though. Indeed, they're even adding a middle
school program for the first time
ever.
We are pleased that
STAB is renewing
its support of humanity's oldest sport, which doesn't discriminate on the
basis of blindness, deafness, amputee status, size or gender (especially
as of the 2004 Olympics in which women will wrestle for the first time).
We are also grateful to anyone involved who may have expressed their
support for our sport.
As the following
Cougar sports
website
documents, the Cougars' 2003 varsity football
team defeated
Woodberry's Tigers 14-10,
FUMA by a score of 24-14, and
Saint
Chris. 28-3. All
three of those opposing teams were strong but 2003 was the
Cougar's season, it would seem. Anyhow,
several of Collegiate's football players are
also wrestlers...
Meanwhile, here's an interesting
discussion
thread on St.
C.'s impressive
line-up for '03-'04 season.
.
The College Sports Council is suing the General Accounting
Office for reporting Title IX damage to men's athletics in a very misleading,
minimalistic manner. Here's the
article.
For more info on Title IX, feel free to click
here.
Washington Times
article:
Wrestling has WON with the new Title IX reform...
Perhaps this was the victory that wrestling
needed, even if our sport's recent Title IX victory is being kept rather
quiet for politically pragmatic reasons prior to the 2004 elections?
Meanwhile, here's an interesting CentralRegionWrestling.com
discussion forum
thread:
is it better to leave a troubled team or to help rebuild it?
Here's a list of wrestling events on t.v.
Washington Times
article:
The 24 hour College Sports Network
debuted Feb. 23rd. We have
been told that this new network was actually
co-founded by Chris Bevilaqua who was an NCAA All American wrestler at Penn
State and former Nike executive who headed their collegiate sports division.
From that website one can contact
one's local cable service provider to request that they carry the
service. (Disclosure: we have absolutely NO affiliation
with any of those entities as this Cougar website has always been 100%
noncommercial).
The U.S. defeated Germany in Washington D.C. @ American
University, Saturday April 12th @ 7p.m. Rulon Gardner, heavyweight
star of the '00 Olympics who beat Russia's previously undefeated Karelin,
gave an instructional clinic prior to that showdown. Here are the
details
(
alternative
site) regarding the event, and here's coverage of Rulon's almost literally
world-shaking Olympic rasslin' a few years ago (Sports Illustrated
article;
Washington Post
article).
The 2002 wrestling NCAAs are now history. Harvard,
Penn, Cornell and Princeton all had NCAA Division 1 All-Americans in 2002.
Two of those Ivy League School teams finished in the Division 1
Top 20, in fact. A
Princeton
Club participant (Greg Parker, 174
lbs., and an underclassperson) reached the NCAA
finals! Princeton's program was
completely dropped in 1993 but the alumni brought it back somehow, despite
Title IX:
proportionality-related obstacles. Annapolis Naval Academy
also had an All-American, and meanwhile a resident from the state of
Georgia
became an NCAA All American for UNC: Chapel
Hill.
We're looking forward to seeing the latest Martin
(from Great Bridge High School in Chesapeake, Virginia) wrestle at Illinois
next year. Did you know that Carl Perry, a recent Great Bridge
wrestler, went on to take first place at the
2000 NCAA's for Illinois? By the way, Grundy's Scott Justus (an
underclassperson at Virginia Tech) went into
the 2002 NCAA tournament seeded #1 with a 29-0 record at 184 lbs.
.
Incidentally, American University's 149
pounder (Hoffer) just barely missed becoming A.U.'s (apparently) first
NCAA All-American wrestler. That scholarship-awarding
Washington D.C. university
didn't even have a 141 pounder this year for him to practice with, either.
Collegiate's Steve Sica '01,
our 3rd All American wrestler in Collegiate's
entire history, was fairly recently a part of
Wesleyan's
school
record-setting defeat of Johns Hopkins. Perhaps in the future
we will all get to cheer on Seth Lotts '02 on
West
Point's wrestling team, and Mac Fridell '02 with the increasingly impressive
Princeton
wrestling club? It's up to them. Meanwhile, some Virginia
NCWA
college club teams recently received coverage in the Richmond Times
Dispatch.
U.of
R's wrestling club scrimmaged
VCU's wrestling club on
2/25/03 Here are the
details regarding Richmond's
Title IX
Bowl...
By the way, the University of Central Florida's wrestling
club is now offering scholar$hips
(article).
Meanwhile, here's information on the potential revival of
Liberty Baptist
University's wrestling program, over in Lynchburg, Va.
TheNCWA
(National Collegiate Wrestling Association, which already has nearly 100
college club teams) held its 2003 national championships in Easton, Pennsylvania.
Here are the
details.
Here is a new discussion
thread
that lists post-season wrestling club opportunities throughout Central Virginia.
This particular noncommercial Cougar rasslin' site's webmaster had
terrific experiences with such clubs while a Cougar, particularly at Douglas
Freeman H.S. when they were the defending Central Region team champs during
the mid-80's. Their participants want exposure to new styles and
techniques which you can offer them, and such clubs are apparently always
open to the public due to their sort of tax-subsidized nature. Dues
charged is minimal, and you may find yourself building friendships with
participants from other schools which last well beyond college. Club
participants frequently show up completely unaccompanied by others,
like this webmaster used to do after lacrosse practice a couple times per
week. Consider getting started soon, while you're still in shape
and can therefore better avoid injuries and keep up more effectively with
local competitors who train year 'round.
Here are the final Richmond Times Dispatch
rankings
for 2002-2003. Nice going Jamie Robertson
(125) & Harry Ludeman
(215lbs)! Additionally, Jamie fairly recently got the
Times Dispatch's "wrestler of the week"
honors
too. That's a pretty neat quote from
Coach Kiefer, isn't it?
Meanwhile, do you remember how Seth Lotts was
unranked but went on to break loose at the
National Preps tournament
by becoming the Prep League's ONLY high school All-American last year?
Prior to that, Seth had posted the following at CentralRegionWrestling.com:
"[r]ankings don't make wrestlers; wrestling does."
This Richmond Times Dispatch
article
which discusses the sellout crowd for the 2003 AAA states quotes some
Richmond-area wrestlers regarding what the Central Region has to do to improve
on this weekend's 3 medalists (out of 14 weight classes). Perhaps
they could learn a little something from the
VISWA state tournament,
mainly the benefits of rotating the championship venue more often than once
every ten years or so? Is it just a coincidence that the VISWA
team title has rather suspensefully gone to a different team 4 of the past
5 seasons? Here's a discussion
thread
that someone (not us) anonymously started on the overall subject.
Three Richmond-area teams
(James River,
Lee
Davis & Petersburg) placed in the Top 20 down at the
2003
Virginia
AAA state championships . Here are the t.v. and webcasting schedule
details...
In 2002, four local teams
(Hermitage
,
Freeman,
Lee
Davis &
Prince
George) placed in the Top 20 at the
2002 AAA State
Tournament, which was won by a Great Bridge team that was ranked 3rd
in the nation. Meanwhile,
Lee
Davis (#7),
Hermitage
(#9),
Godwin
(#15), &
Clover
Hill (#19) all placed in the Top 20 teams at the
2001 AAA States,
too. Prior to that, newcomer
Atlee (which was fueled
in part by a healthy cross-town rivalry with Lee Davis, although Atlee's
coach
departed
due to unsupportiveness from the administration) placed
third overall at the AAA States in 1999.
Atlee also placed seventh at the
1997 AAA state
tournament (which was won by a Western Branch team having just
17 wrestlers on its roster at the beginning of the season). It's not
clear that Central Virginia has ever fielded this many high placing team
finishes at the AAA States (which have been held in hostile Chesapeake territory
every year for around a decade).
James
River also has a wrestling club and apparently a duals tournament,
by the way...and it's showing at the 2003
Virginia
AAA state championships.
For an impressive list of high school wrestling teams in Virginia,
check out CollegiateWrestling.com's
links
page.
WashingtonTimes.com
article:
U.S. Dept. of Education Secretary Rod Paige comments on which
Title IX reforms are going
to be decided upon... Here's a
reaction
from at least part of the amateur wrestling community.
Have you seen the Central Region's championship tournament's
results
in the Richmond Times Dispatch yet? It would seem that
the 1,200 member audience for the finals @ Freeman was a standing-room-only,
sellout crowd. That was hardly the case at the rather sparsely attended
(but nevertheless impressive) regional finals held at Freeman in 1985, but
then again that was before the internet became so conveniently accessible,
too...
Now that a pro basketball franchise may move to the Richmond area,
perhaps it's worth asking ourselves if a RealProWrestling.com franchise would
make it? Here's a somewhat thought-provoking new discussion
thread on
the subject (from CentralRegionWrestling.com)...
Here are the 2003 Virginia Prep League tournament's team & individual
results.
Here is the Richmond Times Dispatch's recent
coverage
of the VISWA State tournament results.
And here are some slightly more
elaborateresults of our own.
At least 1 current and one former
Cougar won it all, while some other Cougars
became state medalists. Medalists included
Reed Blair, who came back from a serious injury
to wrestle 6 matches and even defeat a defending VISWA state champ &
coach's son. Medalists also included Al
Miller, who avenged a loss to
Woodberry the previous weekend
and wrestled 7 matches in 2 days during which he even defeated the practice
partner of a 2x VISWA state champ from
Paul VI.
Around a half a dozen Cougars
were favored to become state medalists there and if you'd like to see who
was favored according to MatTalkOnline.com, please click
here.
Meanwhile, our most sincere congratulations go to our loyal cross-town
rival
St.
Christopher's
for having won it all and putting Richmond-area prep wrestling on the map
in college recruiters' minds (even some club
teams award scholarships nowadays), and in the minds of future opponents
against whom Richmonders will want to have a mental edge during upcoming
showdowns.
Here's some potentially interesting
coverage
from the Washington Post of the 2003 St. Alban's Invitational, of which a
Virginia wrestler won the entire tournament's MOW award.
Of all the high school sports nationwide, boys' wrestling presently has the sixth highest total (244,637) of participants (according to the 2002 Participation Survey press release linked from here). There are a quarter of a million high school wrestlers despite the relatively lower popularity levels of indoor sports in states with warmer weather. Anyhow, elsewhere we have read that that's a record high quantity for humanity's oldest (and arguably its toughest) sport. So how is it that college wrestling teams have been axed in droves? Answer: Title IX-proportionality. Times could be improving, though.
Have you submitted performance data regarding anyone
on your team yet to the nonprofit NCWA's
WrestlingRankings.net?
It's free to do so, and rankings are calculated and re-calculated
automatically & dynamically for college recruiters, the media, and fans
(etcetera) to see from anywhere that there's a connection to cyberspace.
The VISWA schools remain highly under-represented there, surprisingly
enough. Would you like to change that? It only takes a
few minutes to do what others associated with your favorite team(s) haven't
found the time to do, or haven't yet discovered that they can easily do.
This new (and free)
WrestlingRankings.net
service is growing rapidly among Virginia's public schools. Should
the VISWA get left behind?
Have you heard about:
RealProWrestling.com?
How about theKurt Angle
Classic?
Who said amateur-style wrestling couldn't make money for the participants
now in the age of cyberspace? :-)
We've exchanged
banners with that movie's website
(as our site accepts no advertising and does not engage in
e-commerce)...
Doesn't that speak rather well for our individualism-oriented sport how
Meadowbrook High School forfeits 6 weight classes at each event but nevertheless
has such a highly ranked 135 pounder in Seph Sims? (Richmond Times Dispatch
article).
This site's anonymous volunteer alumni rasslin' webmaster
would like to take a moment to praise
Benedictine for not dropping our sport
(and our way-of-life) the way
thatTrinity
Episcopal
did despite the
Titans'
having had a 185 pounder (Will Seger) who placed 4th in the
National Preps tournament
back in 1984, not to mention numerous Prep League champions along the way.
Now the
Titan
alumni don't have the opportunity that we do to root for the ole' alma mater
in humanity's oldest sport, or in football.
Meanwhile,
Massanutten Military Academy
seems to deserve considerable praise for reviving its wrestling team this
year. We hope that other independent schools in Virginia will also
eventually see fit to revive their former VISWA programs as well, such as
Nansemond Suffolk and
Eastern Mennonite High School
(near
JMU).
There are over 30 wrestling teams competing in the VISWA, and here
are the 2002 results
along with team links. And as you likely know, a Richmond-area team
has won 2 of the past 4 VISWA state team titles. Not bad, huh?
The
Saints
have worked very hard for their
VISWA dominance this
year, just as the Cougars did in '99
(etcétera). Remember folks, believe it or not...some members
of the opponent's team will quite conceivably be among your better friends
in college, at social functions, and in the business world later on.
If you apply yourself enough nowadays, then someday you'll be able to look
back upon these times as the "good ole' days" during which you learned valuable
character lessons and in a few cases...even stayed out of jail.
:-) Who
will you have more in common with, anyway...fellow wrestlers from the Richmond
area, or merely fellow alumni with whom you otherwise had remarkably little
in common? But for the rest of the week let's all wrestle hard
and with a vengeance, because it will be good preparation for both
of our teams' going into the postseason.
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Previously....
If Richmond's own St. C. and some team other than Woodberry place in the top 2 teams in this year's Prep League tournament (to be held @ Collegiate for a change), it would mark the first time in how many years that Woodberry has not placed among the Top 2 teams? Certainly not since well over two decades ago. So stay tuned... The combination of VES, FUMA, Collegiate, and Norfolk Academy could make for a wild chase for the runner-up slot. You can do the math... Even teams that don't think they can place in the Top Two still need to "show up" though. Literally every competitor (even those who probably won't place but who can nevertheless wear out an opponent before his next big match in a sportsmanlike yet crowd-pleasing fashion) can help change the course of Prep League wrestling history. The race for 2nd will be a barn-burner folks. If the audience keeps this in mind from the very first round, there will be honor in not giving up lucrative pins against a team nemesis, even if a loss seems inevitable. Every team point will count at the end of the tournament. And who knows...plenty of upsets have surprisingly come about when a tired, out-gunned opponent somehow catches his breath while bridging, and rebounds during the remaining minute to achieve results that can potentially inspire him for the rest of his life not to give up as easily as he otherwise would have in the highly competitive professional arena. The story of the Tortoise and the Hare may be cliché, but there are plenty of examples in which superior opponents have miscalculated or looked too far ahead of their current opponent with whom they and their fans have grown rather unmotivated.
VES
recently defeated Collegiate. For details
from
VES's
website please click
here,
and for details from Collegiate's, please click
here. Did you
know
that VES (whose team was decimated by graduation last
year) has just 125 males, total?
Collegiate outnumbers the
Bishops 2:1. Anyhow, for
Collegiate's other recent results,
please click
here.
St.
C. wrestled
VES in the
Collegiate Duals
, and then wrestled Godwin, George Wythe and AAA powerhouse Western
Branch later that same Saturday. Some results are available
here.
Talk about preparing rigorously for the
National Preps
tournament! Richmond ,Virginia could finally get
on the map this year up at Lehigh.
Here's a fairly recent Richmond Times Dispatch
article which
analyzes how young the
Saints
are, despite their impressive success this season. Evidently only
2 of their 8 different Times Dispatch-ranked wrestlers are seniors.
Will
Woodberry
Forest make it back
to the top of the Prep League anytime soon, now that cyberspace exists to
facilitate unprecedently adequate scrutiny of the
Tigers'
formerly even more monopolistic ways?
January 21st, 2003:
VES 33;
Woodberry 32
The news is now posted
here,
too. That showdown in Lynchburg went down to the Heavyweight
match, which
VES won by pin
before a raucous & packed home crowd (from what we've been told).
VES has just 125
male students, TOTAL, whereas
Woodberry has somewhere near
that many per grade level. It was the first time in 13 years
that VES prevailed,
although last year the two teams split 7 matches each.
Do you recall how
Woodberry trounced
Collegiate last season, but nevertheless went
on to place behind Collegiate at the
season-concluding National Preps
tournament, days after narrowly squeaking by
Collegiate in the Prep League and State tournaments
(both held @
Woodberry)?
Do you recall how badly
U.Va. lost to
V.M.I. in
a
dual
meet @ Collegiate earlier this season?
U.Va. just competed in the state intercollegiate tournament
held in Lexington and guess 'Hoo took 1st place?
Results.
Incidentally, did you notice how
Paul
VI's
Joey
Carpenter (Oakton, Va.) is already starting for the
Wahoos?
Joey placed 4th at the
2002 VISWA state
tournament. Incidentally, do you know how many high school state
tournament titles the 1996 U.S. Olympics flagbearer Bruce Baumgartner (a
2x Olympic champ and 3x Olympic medalist) won? Answer:
zero.
Remember
Woodberry's former 215 pounder
John Kane? Now he starts for New Jersey's
Blair Academy, a co-educational boarding
school of merely 208 male students. John played a significant role
in Blair's recent
defeat of
Chesapeake's perennial AAA powerhouse Great Bridge (which nevertheless
overpowered
all other Final Four participants). Things still haven't worked
out as well for
Norfolk
Academy's
former National Prep runner-up Zach Weisberg up at Blair, though, as this
article
discusses.
Here are the results of the recent showdown between St. C. & Woodberry Forest (both of which recently wrestled FUMA).
Can you believe this
recent
upset of the #2 ranked team at the VISWA state level?
Incidentally, Collegiate narrowly defeated
Norfolk
Academy and here are the
results...
Here are the individual results of the recent
St.
C. vs.
FUMA match (Times Dispatch
coverage).
MatTalkOnline.com has compiled some
VISWA
rankings.
They're available
here.
Here's an interesting
discussion
thread on the recent showdown between Clover
Hill and
St.
Christopher's.
(Editor's note: this unofficial team website's webmaster
respects how his latest pundit there actually had the integrity to identify
himself while commenting candidly and reasonably sensibly, a skill that can
serve him well during his professional life years from now.)
Here's the Times Dispatch's
coverage
of Collegiate's matches versus Chancellor &
Woodberry
Now that the
Matoaca
Duals (which Harry,
John and Jamie
won) are behind the Cougars,
here's the rest of their